and the rewrite enters the fold…
and the rewrite enters the fold…
Have a look see at the social commentary HERE. It has been brought to my attention that my blog post was discussed on Satanic International Network, as well as being included in some sort of S.I.N. vs. Cthulhu Cult rivalry on a news reporting site.
I didn’t hear about the Noah Romando case from the Satanic International Network, I actually received the intel from the news reporting of Ms. Stuart reporting from The Hook via a zine I’m subscribed to on Zimbio.
Believe me when I say, it pained me to have to read through the social commentary on the front wall of the Satanic International Site, of which I have NEVER been a member. I was invited to the site’s tinychat room by its owner Zack Schroder aka Zach Black. I was NEVER banned from the chat room either, I simply stopped visiting it after Zach became upset over a graphic I created in response to his constant flaming and trolling of Venger Satanis. He was so upset in fact, that he called Venger by phone and asked that he put the word out on our own Social Network to chill, because another user Ronald French had posted a blog discussing the constant banter by members of S.I.N. regarding the cult, and animosity between select members. And that’s all it was. It was never site vs. site, because it’s apples to shoes.
Some of the S.I.N. members that can’t seem to get enough of the Cthulhu Cult are referred to as our paparazzi. And, they truly behave as such, so if the shoe fits…Wear it.
I agreed to honor Venger’s request on the Social Network, because it was indeed disruptive to the flow of conversations on the Cthulhu Cult Social Network, where I am a member and administrator. Zach was still seething with butthurt over a month later, when my boyfriend was told that he could still remain in the tinychat so long as I wasn’t around to hear the conversations. My boyfriend had an account over on S.I.N. before we even started dating, but was immediately treated differently because he was my boyfriend by December 2011. My response to Zach’s request? I laughed, I mean…Shit is too funny for words. Seriously? Ass still chapped after all that time? It’s all fun and games until someone gets hurt right? Buy some ointment and call it a fucking day.
Never mind that Zach asked me constantly to join his network and I would refuse. Never mind that Zach called me on my personal cell phone to ask that I participate, he even went as far as calling me at 4am at times with my boyfriend asking: WTF is up with that guy? His drunken antics were by no means excused, and I always held him accountable for any statement he made, phone call, or trolling antics. I’d deal with him directly, there was no need to piss and cry on a network about issues I handled myself personally. Zach was ALWAYS humble so don’t get it twisted, this is all an act for fanfare.
As for the commentary about my blog, and using it for ‘shameless self-promotion’, give me a break. I’m a writer. I write and I cover social issues regarding Satanism, paganism and the Occult and have been for nearly two decades. And since when was self-promotion a sin? Oh that’s right, I forgot about those self-righteous Satanists among the S.I.N. membership. I say some, because I regard people as individuals, and don’t fall into trendy social traps like cliques or gaining ‘enemies’ by proxy.
I met some cool people in the chat and even had some good laughs with some of the more enjoyable people I conversed with. I also know who the polarizing envious fuckheads are too, I have them committed to memory by name. In more recent months I’ve noticed that some of the ‘friendlies’ were also talking shit. Drinking the S.I.N. Koolaid boys and girls? Lay off that shit, and pull your head out of your proverbial ass. You look like idiots. Even worse, you represent the epitome of ‘Satanic’ Retards.
Zach Black uses every opportunity to plug that social network, shamelessly promoting himself, his videos, and hell…Even the latest girl he’s dating for some whack-ass street cred. Social Networking is just that, I network. I’m not on networks to make friends or seek acceptance. I am there to share my writing, and other creations which is what SOCIAL NETWORKING is also for. I also don’t do it for a living, all of my writing is FREE of charge, the crafts on my website are also a hobby which I enjoy immensely.
Here’s a little tid-bit you folks may be interested to learn:
Zach Shroder aka my fanboy Zach Black contacted ME on my youtube channel, and vyed for my attention for nearly 2 years before I ever appeared on The Ooze radio show or visited S.I.N. tinychat. When he invited me to be a guest on the show, and believed he could use me as pawn against Venger Satanis, he also got a nice dose of mental kung fu when I proceeded to speak more frankly and honestly about my experiences with Venger himself. He also believed he could get me over to his network as a dig at Venger Satanis who was developing a wall.fm site of his own back in April 2011. Why all the shit talk about Venger anyway??? He’ll tell you his own version of the stories but I know what’s what.
I commented on several episodes of the Ooze afterwards back when the topics were actually worth listening to, but I was trolling. This whole S.I.N. vs. CoC rivalry is completely childish and always has been. If you want to beat the devil at his game, you should learn how to play it.
If it weren’t for the fact that some of the boys still ached and cried over Venger and his cult, there wouldn’t be a reason to mention it at all. Most of the loudest mouth pieces still don’t know what the Cthulhu Cult is, in truth. Some are still ass chapped over some social networking issue they were working out which I wasn’t even a part of. In fact, I wasn’t on the CoC network for about a year when it all transpired. By the time Venger asked me to come back to the network and we settled our dispute, I was in complete awe of the constant pissing and whining and by grown men calling themselves Satanists.
The Ooze, a show which started with the Cthulhu Cult ‘adopted’ by S.I.N. as some green eyed step child, took a dump and was diminished to a coffee klatch of gossip, and shit talk. All those ‘heavy hitting’ topics as they referred to them, were really only a way to puffer the Social Network up as some grand place to be. To me, it was always a complete ghetto and I wouldn’t slum it there, not even for cash. Although I know some of the members have their own reasons for being there.
So excuse me while I correct the DISINFO that I was ‘bounced’ from that network several times. Bullshit. And for what? Some Internet butthurt from over a year ago? Get a fucking grip. I was never a member. Nor was I ever banned from the tinychat.
The news reporting should be on Noah P. Romando, who he was as a person, and some possible causes for the murders at Stony Point. Leave it to the scumbags over at S.I.N. to turn this issue into some Satanic Panic or publicity stunt to get more ‘numbers’ by the weak-willed Social Climber Zach Black, no such thing as bad publicity my ass. This is it.
Zach’s grand accomplishment is that he created a social network that a monkey could operate. Oh wait…
As I stated on my own blog about the social issues I was addressing, there certainly is bad press, and the commentary on the news reports demonstrates that more fully. Like a bunch of children arguing over who has the best tonka truck. Nice way to show the public that Satanists aren’t douchebags right? Oh that’s right, I’ve written on the truth about that as well, check my archives.
I haven’t commented on a single report, because I know how quickly the social commentary bottoms out beyond ridiculous. Instead I chose to share my perspective on my own blog. The fact that a S.I.N. member chose to share it on their network, was entirely their choice. I was merely offering my perspective to the hooks thrown out and often by Satanists themselves.
To the Romando Family and friends, if you are reading this, please excuse the mess we call Satanism. It’s no more pristine than the dirty laundry aired in social media by any group of people using their philosophy or religion as leverage to excuse their own behavior.
Accountability and Responsibility is a notion parroted but isn’t always in practice by those that preach it.
If you are genuinely interested in learning about some of these social issues, feel free to peruse the titles on my Tindeck player of my podcast; including a topic which covers the reason I shaved my head and the response from select members of S.I.N. aired on their own radio showThe Ooze. Just to get a feel for what we all deal with when discussing these issues publicly in Social Media.
Echoes from the Satanic Panic Era: Satanic Hysterics
I’ve written about the Satanic Panic Era in past blogs, and while I call it echoes it should really be regarded as tongue-in-cheek humor. The reality is, the past is always dragged into the present and the echoes often come from yesterday.
Case in point, some Satanists get over-dramatic and hysterical when it’s even suggested that crimes committed had anything at all to do with a person’s Satanism. They prefer to sweep dirty secrets under the carpet hoping no one will notice. Some Satanists are under the impression that only Modern Satanism is valid, and ensures a Satanist is following the guidelines outlined by Anton Szandor LaVey in his own treatise on Satanism.
They often negate the human condition, and the state of mind of the individual. Even if a person were to follow Anton LaVey’s guidelines to the letter, it doesn’t ensure a person to be completely reasonable, rational or excused for their behavior as mentally ill.
A recent News Report comes to mind, and one straight out Virginia where I live. The weirdest thing is, I spoke with this man in tinychat often enough to get a sense of his demeanor and he seemed like a happy-go-lucky sort of guy. It doesn’t mean I knew him intimately, only that I did have an opportunity to speak with him. I can’t know in all certainty what his state of mind was at any given time, or the details of his life which may have caused him to commit these murders then commit suicide.
Courtney Stuart is being lambasted for providing shotty journalism. The thing is, people seem to be ignoring the fact that she was writing reports from the moment she had any information at all to offer the public. She provided updates as new information became available to her, and a minor mention of Noah Romando’s membership over at the Satanic International Network was being sensationalized by the readership, not the journalist. She was providing some insight into Noah and his family members as people as a way to humanize them. Some of the commentary while it may be unsavory did offer the public some intel into not only who they were, but activities they engaged in such as blogging and participating in social networks.
When mentioning that Noah had an account on the S.I.N. site, she offered some of the information she managed to extrapolate, taking it a step further by offering an explanation of Modern Satanism, without actually knowing if Noah considered himself to be Modern or following the precepts of ‘LaVeyan Satanism’. She simply offered a more mainstream summary so as not to get people up in arms about concepts of evil, devil worship and the “devil-made-me-do-it” ploy.
She quoted Noah from his account as follows:
”…lists his gender as “beast” and describes himself as “a self-styled Satanist.” “
“ “I am on here to talk to intelligent human beings, which are hard to find these days,” he says. “If there is anyone I cannot stand, it is people that hate on other people’s religions and racists. Honestly, there is no f**king point.” “
This particular report was published on 8/30/12 at 4:38 pm with a notation that the story was still developing. Much like the reports she published a day prior.
She shared a screen capture of a photo posted by Noah which gave the public an inside look.
The original title of the article read: “Did Satanism play a role in killings? ” It appears to either have been updated or removed due to the public outcry by Satanists either involved with the S.I.N. site, or demanding that the journalist stop sensationalizing the story.
It finally hit NBC News extracting information from the previous reports by Courtney Stuart. As the officer stated in the news report, public statements are released to ensure the community that there’s no immediate threat to be concerned about. No threat, but the community is obviously concerned about the family left behind, and are looking for closure as to how these events came to pass.
The Satanic Panic Era themes arise from the Satanists themselves that scream, piss and whine about the media sensationalism that occurs when ‘Satanism’ is mentioned in any measure in news reports. I find it amusing really, seeing that most crimes and criminal reports also include the religious slant of the individual, as well as any reading material they may have had influence over their mindset.
We can’t know in all certainty if the environment of S.I.N. or the reading material that Noah Romando was exposed to had any affect on his own mindset. To sweep it under the carpet, or ignore it entirely is just foolish. The fact is, Noah was only 19 years old and still maturing as a person. Obviously he was having troubles in his life which may have been the catalyst for the murder/suicide. What trouble? Who can say really, it will all be based on second-hand accounts at this point, because the young man is dead and can’t speak for himself.
As I stated, I had some personal interaction with him, and he was always full of smiles and an eagerness to chat with others in S.I.N.’s tinychat. Even if I never got the impression that he was having trouble at home, it doesn’t mean he wasn’t. People maintain their social privacy even when they speak about their daily lives.
Placing blame on the journalist for asking the hard questions, and using what was available to her in public media is just another method of scapegoating. Does it somehow distract from the fact that a murder/suicide occurred in Stony Point?
I mean, it’s a valid question right? Did Noah’s Satanic thought process have anything to do with these murders? No one ever receives answers without first asking the questions. Maybe the answer will be No, but it could possibly be Yes. And then what? Does that automatically make all Satanism the cause for people to commit murder/suicide? Look around you people, the religions and philosophies of other people are in fact the underlying cause for their actions. To down-play that is a shame in lieu of understanding the way the mind ticks.
Take a look at the social commentary on the report, I’m sure the comments will keep flowing and as readers banter on, the reality is, a family is dead. A mother, and her three children – all dead. The community has to figure out a way to cope, just as the members of the S.I.N. site will have to learn how to cope with both the magnitude of the situation and their own thoughts and feelings it invokes.
Having dealt with LeRoy myself, I can say he’s a little rough and tumble with his commentary, but most people find him to be an up-front sort of guy. Maybe this is his way of coping with the backlash he suspects. Is this helpful? Is it needful? For me, I don’t think this is the proper approach, but this is just my opinion. I’m not Thomas LeRoy. I’ve added my commentary to the youtube, and I’m sure some readers will find my comments unfavorable. I’m not really concerned with favor, I’m more concerned with thinking about the issue more critically.
This is the impression that I got from talking with Noah myself. I think this photo is an accurate depiction of the kind of guy he was. Who knows why he shot his family and then turned the gun on himself. Was it Satanism? Not likely the cause for his trouble, but perhaps an influence over the way he handled what ever it was he was dealing with.
The bottom line for me is, this is a tragedy, and one that has been given public attention. Not because he was a Satanist but because 4 people are dead in a quiet Albemarle County town. Now that its been given public attention, crying that the media is sensationalizing it, is counter-productive. Some sensationalizing is required to give it the attention it deserves. A catchy title for a news article is hardly a reason to dismiss the entire reporting as ‘Enquire Like’ because up until Courtney Stuart began her reporting at 9am on 8/29/12 the community had very little detail, if any, as to why bodies were rolled out of a home in Stony Point.
I’m sure more hysterics are forth-coming. In the meantime, the S.I.N. sitehas put up a memorial blog for Noah8, and has to deal with the users on the network and their statements which are fully public.
I’ve read my fair share of commentary that stated that there’s no such thing as bad press, I disagree, of course there is! Some users seem to believe that Satanic International Network will now be given national attention getting some of the members there in a state of paranoia. Why the paranoia?
Perhaps it was a statement such as this from one of the readers of the article reviewing the site for ‘quality’:
Jeff D August 30th, 2012 | 8:39pmHaving taken a look at the ‘Satanic International Network’:
It appears the founder is a San Diego surfer-dude whose main theme is promoting homophobia.
Its membership is a hodge-podge collection of neo-Nazis, extremist left-wingers, homophobes, speed metal fans, punkers, emo-posers, fashion addicts, tattoo freaks, fans of fantasy fiction, and meth-heads. A few claim to perform ‘rituals’ in their home and feeling aroused. Some claim to be anti-religion while others claim to be devout Christians or devotees of other major religions.
Homophobia itself seems to be a top theme amongst the members despite their presented image of looking like cast members from the Rocky Horror Pictureshow—featuring ‘I’m cool’ pics and underwear-in-the-mirror pics.
All-in-all, the S.I.N. members each appear to be rather brainless and aimless people who have latched onto one out-of-date fashion trend or another and imagine themselves to be cutting-edge anti-establishment—despite all evidence to the contrary. Their level of knowledge of subject-matter is blatantly close to non-existent as they spew on about Babylon, vegetarian virtues, politics, Hitler, Catholicism, etcetera—all of which seems to be wimpy attempts towards posing themselves as arch-narcissists. Above all they are believers in the concept that generation-X is the educated and intelligent generation.
There is nothing more to be observed about these people—unless one of them posts a favorite recipe or how to ride a skateboard.
BTW: in reference to Ms. Suart’s article, the members of this S.I.N. website are now referring to Stuart as ‘They”—meaning the imaginary controllers of a conspiratorial global society. They seem to believe that The Hook is a major news outlet to be quoted by the rest of the world and a leader of the big conspiracy (as I said: brainless people). They are also expecting the police to release pages of detailed findings—obviously they do not know Virginia.
In an attempt to make the site accessible to the general public, common sense should tell members that the public will form their own opinions about what they see, and what they read. Oh that’s right, the public is ignorant while the users over at S.I.N. are all knowing…right. Talk about existing in a vacuum.
Some of these news reports fall off the radar when the topic gets cold, there’s no guarantee that updates will be posted, but I’ll include updates when I see them.
P.S. The News Report is called ‘The Hook’ with reasoning, if you got caught up on the fisherman’s pole, you may want to consider that stick you have shoved up your ass, open your mind and consider all aspects of the matter at hand.
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